http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/ Шелепиха - дом 12 ru-ru Sun, 07 Jan 2024 17:18:33 +0300 MyBB/mybb.ru http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=317#p317 <p>Такой простой метод позволяет отсечь вымышленные координаты, которыми часто прикрываются мошенники, а также полюбоваться на заявленные места головных офисов. Этот простой метод не подвёл и с «Эсперио». </p> <p>В футере сайта, а также в шапке клиентского договора указан один и тот же адрес на Сент-Винсент и Гренадинах: First Floor, First St. Vincent Bank Ltd Building, James Street, Kingstown. Здание действительно существует, и оно напрямую связано с финансовой системой. Находится в нём ровно то, что мошенники не удосужились вычистить из адреса: First St. Vincent Bank Ltd Building. То есть главный банк страны. </p> <p>Несмотря на миниатюрность учреждения в карликовом государстве, офшорный банк не бедствует и уж точно не докатился до сдачи в аренду первого этажа здания всяческим проходимцам. Банкам по любым протоколам безопасности запрещается делить помещения с любыми арендаторами, поскольку это создаёт дополнительную уязвимость. </p> <p>Ровно этим же адресом прикрылись лохоброкеры Pro Trend и Moon X. При этом признаков клонирования у этих ресурсов с Esperio нет, так что скорее мы имеем дело с новым популярным резиновым адресом. Выбор удачный: координаты ещё не растиражированы по сотням и тысячам сайтов, рисков, что на далёкий офшорный остров нагрянет русскоязычный клиент мало. Да ещё и поверхностная проверка через поисковик покажет, что адрес существует и там что-то про финансы. Так что для целей мошенников отлично подходит. </p> <p>Чарджбэк для возврата средств на карту <br />Детальное руководство от экспертов <br />Не менее полезно проверять реальный стаж компаний. В большинстве случаев его выдаёт доменное имя. Esperio уверяет, что работает на благо трейдеров с 2011 года, однако проверка по доменному имени изобличает эту ложь. Сайт esperio.org пустили в дело только в мае 2022 года. Это зеркало, как и все прочие засветившиеся на скриншоте Центробанка РФ доменные имена лжеброкера, созданы в середине 2021 года. То есть лоховозка работает не более 1 календарного года. Впрочем, это солидный срок: большинство её коллег не преодолевают рубежа в несколько месяцев. Однако речи о солидном стаже и соответствии заявленному в легенде 2011 году не идёт. </p> <p>Как чёрный брокер Esperio маскируется под нормального</p> mybb@mybb.ru (RandallGunse) Sun, 07 Jan 2024 17:18:33 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=317#p317 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=316#p316 <p>Признаки обмана, мошенничества <br />Когда реальные отзывы настолько отличаются от тех, что брокер размещает на своем официальном сайте, вывод очевиден. Вряд ли перед нами честный и прозрачный посредник. К тому же, мы нашли и другие спорные моменты. </p> <p>Срок существования проекта <br />Трейдеров пытаются убедить в том, что Esperio появился в отрасли еще в 2012 году. Это утверждение можно прочесть в коротком описании самой компании, и заметить в футере сайта. Однако ничего общего с реальным положением вещей такие заявления не имеют. В отзывах авторы пишут об отсутствии узнаваемости бренда не просто так. До недавнего времени о таком посреднике никто не знал. </p> <p>Данные веб-архива показывают, что брокер занял сайт в июне 2021 года. В самом деле, сложно представить, чтобы за 10 лет работы действительно надежный брокер так и остался для большинства трейдеров неузнаваемым. <br />Регистрация <br />С юридическими данными у Esperio вообще произошла какая-то путаница. Брокер указывает в качестве управляющей компании некую OFG Cap LTD. При этом в реестр Сент-Винсент и Гренадин она должна быть внесена под номером 20603. Разумеется, мы не нашли ни одного упоминания о таком наборе цифр. </p> <p>Но хотя бы OFG Cap, правда, не LTD, а LLC все-таки существует. Кстати, она была инкорпорирована в 2022 году, даже позже, чем появился официальный сайт. Уж совсем никак не в 2012. В футере указана недостоверная информация. <br />Добавить ко всему перечисленному стоит и то, что гренадинский офшор — не самое лучшее место в мире для регистрации бизнеса. Вернее, для мошенников, конечно, сойдет. А вот у клиентов, особенно трейдеров, могут возникнуть существенные проблемы при сотрудничестве с такими компаниями.</p> mybb@mybb.ru (Stephenric) Tue, 26 Dec 2023 02:15:25 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=316#p316 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=315#p315 <p>Как чёрный брокер Esperio маскируется под нормального </p> <p>Далее, у брокера обязана быть лицензия на данный вид деятельности. Её выдают финансовые государственные регуляторы: подробнее об этой системе полезно прочитать в соответствующей статье нашего блога. В островном офшоре есть собственный финансовый госрегулятор под названием Financial Services Authority. Самый надёжный и при этом простой способ проверки наличия лицензии следующий: зайти на официальный сайт регулятора и ввести название компании в поиск. Результат отрицательный: ни OFG Cap. Ltd, ни Esperio в FSA не лицензировались. Так что компания не имеет разрешения на финансовую деятельность даже в заявленной стране регистрации, которая, впрочем, тоже оказалась фейковой. </p> <p>Впрочем, даже в случае легального оформления юрлица и лицензирования по месту регистрации этого недостаточно для работы в правовом поле Российской Федерации. Оказывать брокерские услуги в стране можно исключительно по лицензии Центробанка РФ. Российский регулятор, как и все его иностранные коллеги, призван способствовать прозрачности рынка и ведёт открытые реестры держателей своих допусков и чёрные списки. Поиск по реестрам на сайте ЦБ РФ показывает, что брокер Esperio ему знаком. Он загремел в чёрный список компаний с признаками нелегального профучастника рынка ценных бумаг. Этот корректный термин обозначает лохоброкера: всё-таки не полагается почтенному государственному регулятору такую терминологию использовать. </p> <p>Обратите внимание на сайты, перечисленные на скриншоте из чёрного списка Центробанка РФ. Видно, что мошенники часто запускают зеркала своего сайта. Этому может быть только одна причина: их блокировка за мошенничество для российских пользователей, которые являются основной целевой аудиторией лжеброкеров. </p> <p>На момент написания обзора провайдеры РФ пока не перекрыли доступ к esperio.org. Однако, судя по активности лохоброкера, и эта мера не за горами. </p> <p>Как чёрный брокер Esperio маскируется под нормального </p> <p>Адрес и стаж как признаки мошенничества Esperio <br />В ходе проверки информации о компании «Вся Правда» также рекомендует пробивать заявленный на её интернет-ресурсе адрес. Хотя бы через поисковые системы и, особенно, через Гугл-карты.</p> mybb@mybb.ru (RichardSkisp) Tue, 26 Dec 2023 01:12:18 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=315#p315 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=314#p314 <p><strong><span style="display: block; text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 26px">Поставим на твой авто новый кузов</span></span></strong>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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Да, потерял 300 баксов, но это будет ценным уроком для меня, не работать больше с аналогичными мусорными конторами, которые рисуют любые котировки, лишь бы слить своего клиента и отнять у него все деньги до последней кпоейки. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Нет нормального регулирования <br />Lucky Октябрь 21, 2022 <br />Пускай получат нормальное регулирование, которое будет основным и единственным доказательством надежности компании, тогда и можно будет поговорить о торговле. Но а пока, это стандартный фейковый посредник. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Есть лишь гарантия слив бабла <br />Debb Октябрь 22, 2022 <br />Страховка? Какая еще страховка? От брокера, которому якобы уже 10 лет, но на самом деле его создали в 2021 году? Но это же полный смех, бред! Однако немало людей еще не могут отличить правду от вранья, и они постоянно вкладываются в такие проекты. <br />Терять деньги многим не привыкать, но я так и не могу понять, зачем это делать, какая выгода от подобных вещей? Это какое-то извращенное чувство того, что ты слил, отдал свои деньги другим ребятам? Не знаю, как по мне, то такие ресурсы нужно относить в Черный Список. Официальный сайт до сих пор у них не в блокировке, и я не понимаю почему, куда смотрит регулятор ЦБ РФ, что не отдает распоряжение о блокировке этого ресурсика. <br />ТО, что это грязная кухня, понятно сразу же: бонус 100% на депозит, кредитное плечо аж до 1:1000, отсутствие контроля от хотя бы одного вразумительного регулятора. Вам это ничего не напоминает? Да каждый второй мошенник, который когда-либо существовал и разводил людей на деньги, имел такие же условия для торговли. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Очень много вранья <br />Волк Октябрь 29, 2022 <br />Ой, сколько же тут вранья, ей Богу. И про большой срок работы наврали, и про ECN наврали, и про безопасность наврали. А у самих кроме регистрации на бумажке в Гренадинах ничего и нет. Смешно смотреть на то, как эти скамеры пытаются разводить людей)) </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Денег не ждите! <br />Хиски Октябрь 31, 2022 <br />Как только прошел регистрацию, так сразу же меня принялись сливать по полной, и происходило это именно на разрекламированной криптовалюте BTCUSD, ETHUSD, и только после этого я понял, что если и заниматься криптотрейдингом, то лучше все это делать на криптовалютных биржах, но не через Esperio. А здесь можно лишь минус поймать, как я -800 поймал еще весной 2022 года, наивно полагая, что ресурс, компания, зарегистрированная в такой стране как Сент-Винсент и Гренадины, и правда дает людям возможность торговать, получать деньги на мировом рынке, выводить и так далее. Был откровенным лохом, я это признаю, сознаюсь в этом. И никому одновременно с этим не могу порекомендовать данную организацию. Вас будут доить на деньги, впаривать всякого рода шлак в виде сигналов и аналитики. Лишь бы вкладывали деньги, сливали, вкладывали и затем снова сливали. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Одни лишь байки о профитном трейдинге <br />Nik21 Ноябрь 1, 2022 <br />Мне интересно, а где же эти 100 тысяч зарегистрированных пользователей? Где их искать? А то как-то странно читать о таком большом количестве людей, которые трудятся на сайте Esperio, но не иметь возможности лично с ними пообщаться, ну хотя бы с кем-то. <br />Нет, на самом деле ничего такого у меня не выйдет, да и выйти не может потому, что мне и всем другим наивных юзерам врут о надежности ДЦ, о большом количестве реальных клиентов, о выводах денег. Ресурс так себе, без репутации и имени, администрация нагло врет пользователям, не слушайте представителей сайта. Домен у них работает всего лишь с 2021 года, о каком 2012 может вообще идти речь? <br />Если вообще дальше заводить речь про отрицательные моменты у Esperio, то можно будет выделить и отсутствие лицензии, и отсутствие нормальных документов, доказывающих, что резервы компании превышают общий вложенный капитал трейдеров. То бишь никаких гарантий нет. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Быстрая потеря средств <br />Love Ноябрь 3, 2022 <br />А вы посмотрите, где именно они зарегистрированы. И сразу же станет ясно, что с платформой родом из офшорной помойки ничего общего иметь нельзя. Такие ресурсы быстренько создают, практически на конвейере идет штамповка. Не может компания, которая была зарегистрирована относительно недавно в такой офшорной стране как Гренадины, быть проверенной, честной, выплачивать хотя бы кому-то деньги. Это нереально даже с точки зрения адекватного восприятия торговли как таковой. Деньги идут в карман этим мошенникам и скамерам, уже сто раз об этом рассказывали люди, да и рецензий негативных море. Запомните, если вы видите офшорную конторку, без таких лицензий, как FCA, CySEC, ASIC, ЦБ РФ, то это 100%-ый лохотрон и кухонный разводняк. Так что и смысла торговать в Эсперио нет никакого, абсолютно. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Не понимаю, что происходит <br />koteika Ноябрь 13, 2022 <br />Не понимаю, что происходит. Торговал тут месяц, все шло хорошо, сейчас решил вывести прибыль 350 долларов и ничего не происходит. Уже 2 недели прошло, как моя заявка висит в Esperio, и все также на том же месте. Что делать, хз </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Зарабатывать тут вариантов куча <br />Allo Ноябрь 27, 2022 <br />Компания предлагает много дополнительных услуг, много возможностей. Тут зарабатывать деньги вариантов масса, хоть самостоятельно торгуй, хоть пассивно инвестируй в фонд, в готовые инвестпортфели, в копирование сделок. Вы можете создать аж до 5 источников дохода, все на одной платформе. Есть партнерская программа, активно рекламируйте брокера (есть за что рекламировать между прочим), и получайте еще больше профита с рефералов. 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&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; <span style="display: block; text-align: center">Идея строительства трассы №74 впервые появилась в территориальных схемах развития Троицкого и Новомосковского округов в 2015 году. Однако она не нашла места в реализации и была отложена на некоторое время. Уже в 2020 году все же было принято решение о возобновлении и реализации проекта до 2040 года, что вызывает беспокойство среди жителей.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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text-align: center">Одним из главных опасений жителей является вырубка части леса для строительства трассы. Этот лес, который был ценным многие десятилетия, представляет собой не только природный резерв, но и место, где местные жители находили уединение, проводили время с семьей, занимались спортом и наслаждались природой. Планируемая вырубка части леса пугает местных жителей.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;<span style="display: block; text-align: center">Многие считают, что Троицкий лес – это не просто деревья, это целый экосистемный комплекс, который поддерживает биоразнообразие региона. Они боятся, что это негативно скажется на популяции местных видов животных и растений, а также на экологическом равновесии. К тому же, Троицкий лес служит местом для прогулок, велосипедных поездок, пеших прогулок и занятий спортом. Здесь важно понимать, что строительство трассы не лишит местных жителей возможности наслаждаться этой природной зоной и не повлияет на качество жизни в регионе.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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Как правило, трасса 74 позволит существенно разгрузить поток автомобилей и упростит транспортные развязки для поездки к городу.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;<span style="display: block; text-align: center"><a href="https://t.me/smarttrees" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Авторский проект Михаила Ухова &quot;Умное зеленое&quot;</a> считает, что сохранность экологии, безусловно, важный фактор для современного мира. Однако, наряду с ним стоят еще и перемены. И здесь важно учесть их гармоничное соседство, чтобы обеспечить максимально комфортные условия к сосуществованию.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;<span style="display: block; text-align: center">P.S. 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Сначала я торговал на стандартном тарифе, с адекватными условиями. В принципе и сейчас приторговываю, но большую часть депозита я закинул в копирование сделок. Он тут сделан прекрасно и удобно. Сам настраиваешь свои обороты, свой риск-менеджмент, вся статистика перед лицом, в том числе и того трейдера, которого ты копируешь. Так что самое сложное, это по сути выбрать трейдера, который будет грамотно и прибыльно торговать. Я таких двух нашел, приносят мне в среднем по 12,48% ежемесячно, это уже после вычета всех комиссий. <br />Сам я приторговываю на небольшую сумму, но не вывожу прибыль, реинвестирую, постепенно раскачивая счет. Предпочитаю все-таки, чтобы деньги работали за меня. <br />В остальном брокер тоже хорош, как и по условиям, так и по качеству обслуживания. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Да внесите уже эту кухню в ЧС <br />Alilo Декабрь 5, 2022 <br />Давно пора уже внести эту поганую кухню в черный список. Развелось тут видите ли, всяких там компашек по форекс-торговле. Надоели уже скамить и кидать людей на деньги. Давно надо запретить весь этот балаган. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Отличный дополнительный сервис <br />1988 Декабрь 10, 2022 <br />Тут и обучающие курсы предоставят, и просто какие-то конкретные обучающие материалы. Я вот например изучал тему индикаторов, запросил много материала на эту тему, все прислали быстро на почту. Правда, я все равно так и не стал ими пользоваться, после изучения тема показалась гиблой, стандартная связка технического + фундаментального анализа работает более грамотно. <br />Тут и аналитика топовая. Тоже ее использую, не прямо голую аналитику беру, а связываю ее со своей торговой стратегий. Получается еще улучшенная стратегия. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Тут мега тяжело торговать в плюс <br />SabaRahm Декабрь 17, 2022 <br />У меня большие проблемы с торговлей в Esperio. Во-первых, терминал хоть и метатрейдер 5, но лагает супер-сильно. Не знаю, в чем проблема, потому что попробовал поторговать на том же метатрейдере 5, но только у другого брокера, там такой проблемы не наблюдается, все работает здорово. То есть трабла именно в этйо конторе. Во-вторых, спреды + комиссии. И ладно бы спреды и комиссии в совокупности были мелкими, но спреды еще куда не шло, они плавающие, но вот комиссионные тут сильно бьют по карману. Так что как торговать в плюс у этого посредника, я не понимаю. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Все работает просто супер <br />marat Январь 7, 2023 <br />Что такое Esperio? Это топовый дилинговый центр с опытом ведения деятельности более 10 лет. Мало какие брокерские компании даже до 5-летнего стажа-то доживают, так как эта индустрия мега конкурентная, но факт того, что эта фирма смогла, говорит о многом. <br />Сам я здесь торгую с конца 2021 года, то бишь чуть более, чем один год. Первые три месяца скорее привыкал, именно к комиссиям, к спредам. Сначала казалось, что это большие издержки, но потом подсчитал, что на самом деле издержки тут не выше, чем в среднем по рынку. Плавающие спреды весьма низкие, и практически никакого влияния не имеют, зато нет проблем с тем, что из-за спреда тебе закрывают позицию по стопу, хотя цена до этой отметки не заходила. Думаю, что многие форекс-трейдеры сталкивались с подобной проблемой, понимают, о чем я. <br />Выводы прибыли начал делать где-то на 4-5 месяца. Сначала небольшие суммы, по 200-300 долларов 1-2 раза в месяц. В сентябре 2022 года вывел первый раз крупную сумму в 2000 долларов. Пришли деньги нормально. К слову, KYC я сразу же прошел после регистрации, так что от брокера ко мне вопросов совсем не было. Ну вот так и продолжаю торговать, выводы от 1000-2000 долларов стабильно, все приходит в срок и вовремя. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Мошенники да и все <br />vich Январь 11, 2023 <br />Чтобы было понятнее – 99,99% брокерских компаний из офшоров типо Гренадин, во-первых, кухонные которые, которые не могут позволить себе доступ к ECN, а во-вторых, обманывают людей, начиная с информации о своей деятельности, и заканчивая выводами денег клиентов. <br />Я уверен на 100%, что у этого брокера есть много проблем, включая вывод средств. Он может давать выводить мелочь, до 100-200 баксов, но крупные суммы он вам с радостью забракует, так как они просто грабят его, ведь форекс тут не настоящий, а кухонный </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Офшорная грязная кухня <br />Альфа Январь 12, 2023 <br />Мне вот кажется, что открывать депозит у брокера, который не имеет лицензии, да еще и зарегистрирован где-то в офшорной стране, не самая лучшая идея. Компании, которые находятся в Сент-Винсент и Гренадины, имеют слишком негативную репутацию. С такими брокерами лучше не начинать работать, так как они с легкостью, по щелчку пальцев, становятся скамами, и деньги из таких контор вытащить не представляется возможным. <br />Именно такой грязной офшорной кухней является Esperio. Не представляю, какие гарантии может эта кухня предоставить, кроме тупой бумажки, неимеющей никакого значения из SVGFSA. <br />Короче говоря, не вздумайте тут трейдить. Ничего нормального из этого не выйдет, лишитесь всех средств на изи-бризи. </p> <p>Ответить </p> <p>Нормальный мне брокер <br />Dan Январь 19, 2023 <br />Как по мне нормальный брокер Эсперио. Сначала, да я много не зарабатывал, но сейчас я уже втянулся и имею нормально, по крайней мере я доволен. Деньги свои прибыльные выводил, проблем нет с этим. Но только вот единственный минус, недавно в подержку я не мог долго достучаться. А так в принципе нормально мне. Брокером доволен </p> <p>Ответить</p> mybb@mybb.ru (GlennWrept) Wed, 08 Nov 2023 20:28:18 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=298#p298 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=297#p297 <p><span style="display: block; text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-size: 20px">КАК КУПИТЬ КАССОВЫЕ ЧЕКИ И НЕ ППОЛУЧТЬ ПРОБЛЕМ ОТ БАНКОВ И ИФНС</span></strong></span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;<span style="display: block; text-align: center">В период межсезонья, когда до сдачи НДС есть еще достаточно времени, можно и нужно иметь ввиду все варианты оптимизации своего бизнеса. Например, чеки из кассовых аппаратов.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; <span style="display: block; text-align: center">Рассмотрим классический случай для Российского малого бизнеса. Вы руководитель или собственник такого вот бизнеса. У вас много наличных расходов, которые вы не можете отразить по-честному в бухгалтерском учете, а официальная заработная плата очень мала, либо вообще отсутствует. Можно тупо взять и снять наличные по карте, привязанной к расчетному счету вашей конторы. Банкомат лишних вопросов не задаст и все выдаст. Так будет продолжаться какое-то время пока финансовый мониторинг банка не заблокирует ваш расчетный счет.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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Снятый наличные по карте пройдут естественно по выписке банка и ваш бухгалтер попросит у вас оправдательные документы, куда, собственно, пошли, снятые денежки. Возможно, вы рассчитались налом с поставщиками, которые не дают документов на товар или услугу, или просто прогуляли, купили любовнице жене шубу и так далее. Для бухгалтерии надо куда-то деть остаток, образовавшийся в кассе, под который нет реальных денег. 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&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;<span style="display: block; text-align: center">Тут то мы и придем на помощь, пробив вам <a href="https://t.me/ndstop" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">кассовые чеки</a>, на якобы купленные у нас товары или оказанные услуги. Все кассовые аппараты уже давно шлют инфу в &quot;онлайн&quot; налоговикам. Кто не знает доводим - просто собрать, как это было раньше, чеки в любом розничном магазине и написать под них приходные кассовые ордера не прокатит. В любом чеке теперь вся полная инфа о покупателе, продавце и вся номенклатура.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; <span style="display: block; text-align: center">Можем сделать чеки НДС, так и без него. Покупая чеки с НДС, вы еще и покупаете «бумажный» <a href="https://t.me/ndstop" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">оптимизация НДС</a>, одновременно приводя в порядок свою кассу и экономя на налогах. В этом варианте не образуется кредиторской задолженности, что очень важно для правдоподобности сделки. Ко всем чекам выдадим счета фактуры, УПД. Цена в зависимости от объемов и НДС. Большие суммы - по договоренности. Площадкам и крупным посредникам специальные условия. Предоплата только в случае, если это прошлый период и нужна одновременно уточненка по НДС и, при этом клиент новый и непонятна его платежеспособность.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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text-align: center">Важно понимать, что задними числами не пробьем. И никто не пробьет. Кто говорит иное - обманывает. Но, никто не запрещает заплатить за, якобы, ранее отгруженные товары или выполненные работы.</span>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 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Сайт принадлежит и управляется организацией OFG Cap. Ltd, которая юридически находится в офшорах на островах Сент-Винсент и Гренадины. Компания была основана в 2011 году, ориентирована не только на англоязычных пользователей, но и на трейдеров стран СНГ. Количество клиентов более 10000 человек, а торговый оборот превышает 1 млрд USD. Esperio получили несколько наград в форекс-индустрии в 2021-2022 года. Но при этом брокерская деятельность осуществляется без лицензии от регуляторов. Торговые условия Клиенты получают доступ к нескольким классам рынков, более 3000 активов: металлы; фондовые индексы; акции ЕС и США; бонды; коммодити; криптовалюты; форекс; сырье. В качестве рабочего терминала в Esperio используется терминал MetaTrader, поддерживающий все виды устройств (ПК, планшеты, iOS, Android). Типов счетов у брокера предложено четыре варианта: Стандартный. Валюта счета в USD/EUR, объемы от 0,01 лота, margin call/stop out 60%/20%, кредитное плечо до 1:1000 включительно, рыночное исполнение ордеров, swap-free по запросу трейдера, спред от поставщиков от 0 пунктов. Комиссия от 0,007% в зависимости от торгуемого класса инструмента. Центовой. От 10$ минимальный депозит. Аналогично стандартному, только стандартный лот уменьшен в 100 раз, подходит для маленьких счетов. Инвест. Здесь отсутствует левередж, только для заработка на росте цены. MT5 ECN. Вывод на межбанковскую ликвидность. Дополнительный сервис В Esperio можно не только самостоятельно торговать, но и копировать сделки других трейдеров, зарабатывая пассивную прибыль. Пользователи могут подать заявку для того, чтобы к нему могли присоединяться инвесторы, и тем самым зарабатывая профит за счет большего капитала. Кроме этого, компания разрабатывает готовые инвестиционные портфели и предлагает вложиться в них своим клиентам. На момент написания актуальны два вида инвестпортфелей: Оптимальный. Потенциальная доходность 11,4%, текущая -10,5%. В портфель входят акции США, золото, облигации, есть сделки на понижение. Первые шаги. Ожидаемая прибыль 40,5%, текущая -5,6%. Сюда включены два типа акций: дивидендные и бумаги роста. Клиенты могут вложить деньги в специальный фонд Esperio, топ-10 позиций которого состоят из SP500, Alcoa, Visa, McDonalds, 3M, американские 10-лентие трежерис. Горизонт инвестирования от 1 месяца. Кроме этого, брокер предлагает трейдерам онлайн-обучение с индивидуальными занятиями, личным ментором, в любое удобное время и получением сертификата после прохождения курсов. Программы рассчитаны как на новичков, так и на опытных и профессиональных клиентов. Цена 250$-500$ за курс, либо 50$/занятие. Дополнительно зарабатывать с Esperio можно на партнерской программе. Фирма платит 20$ за верифицированного пользователя, 500$ за активного и 30% от оплаченного спреда. Бесплатный вспомогательный инструментарий состоит из экономического календаря, новостной ленты, trading central, рыночных обзоров, свежей аналитики и терминологии. VIP-клиенты получают процент на остаток по депозиту до 5% в месяц, кешбек до 15%, личного финансового консультанта, компенсацию отрицательного свопа 20%, отсутствие комиссии за пополнение баланса, ускоренную обработку заявок на снятие, индивидуальное обучение. Выводы Отзывы об Esperio в интернете можно найти противоречивые и неоднозначные. Делитесь своим опытом, мнением об этом брокере. Не забудьте добавить все плюсы, минусы, какие вы здесь обнаружили. Плюсы Наличие инвестиционных услуг; Партнерская программа, VIP-сервис; Большой срок работы; Наличие центового типа счета. Минусы Отсутствует лицензия на брокерскую деятельность; Признаки финансовой пирамиды; Нет информации о демо-счете; Регистрация в офшорном государстве без представительств в других странах; Противоречивая и неоднозначная репутация в интернете. Добавить свой отзыв | Отзывы и комментарии Оф. сайт: esperio.org; Телефон технической поддержки: +4 202 340 766 95; Электронная почта: support@esperio.org. Отзывы о компании Esperio: Показать все Полезные Высокий рейтинг Низкий рейтингДобавить свой отзыв Ответить GIZMABIZ Июнь 4, 2022 в 3:01 дп Ваша оценка80 Наверное, это один из самых идеальных брокеров, которого я когда-либо вообще встречал и где я когда-либо торговал. Начну с торговых условий. Тут комиссионные за сделки и спреды, но, спреды почти совсем нулевые и по сути никаких издержек из себя не представляют. А комиссионные за сделки тут ниже, чем у многих известных и топовых брокеров, по той же криптовалюте тут размер комиссии точно не выше,</p> mybb@mybb.ru (JamesSoigh) Wed, 01 Nov 2023 01:39:38 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=296#p296 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=295#p295 <p>Hello. And Bye.</p> mybb@mybb.ru (XRumerTest) Sun, 29 Oct 2023 11:27:43 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=295#p295 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=294#p294 <p>+ for the post</p> mybb@mybb.ru (KennethGeazy) Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:35:43 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=294#p294 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=293#p293 <p>Howlogic Kft: Update zum K&#252;ndigen und Abo-Falle </p> <p>Die Firma Howlogic Kft hat einen Anzeigentext auf einem Portal eines Radiosenders ver&#246;ffentlicht. Im Text wird das Unternehmen mit Sitz in Ungarn als &#8222;f&#252;hrend&#8220; beschrieben. Sie soll ihren Kunden die M&#246;glichkeit bieten, Online Dating Portale zu betreiben. Wir haben uns den Text genauer angesehen und kommentieren die aktuellen Entwicklungen zu den Themen K&#252;ndigung und Abos. </p> <p>Anzeigentext soll &#220;berzeugungsarbeit leisten <br />Zwei Dinge fallen beim Lesen des Artikels &#8222;Abo-Falle &#8211; Howlogic Kft? Was die Anw&#228;lte sagen&#8220; besonders auf. Zum einen am&#252;sierte uns die Aussage am Ende des Beitrags, in dem es hei&#223;t, dass etwaige Kunden sich nicht mit &#8222;k&#252;nstlichen Intelligenz herumzuschlagen&#8220; m&#252;ssen, sondern &#8222;echten Support erhalten&#8220;. Der Text wirkt auf uns ebenso &#8222;k&#252;nstlich&#8220;, als ob ChatGPT mit passenden Schlagw&#246;rtern wie &#8222;K&#252;ndigen&#8220; oder &#8222;F&#252;hrend&#8220; gef&#252;ttert wurde. </p> <p>Zum Anderen sind wir verwirrt, wer denn nun die eindeutig zweideutigen Online Dating Portale, &#252;ber die wir an anderer Stelle geschrieben haben, letztendlich betreibt. Im Impressum einer der noch funktionierenden Webseiten (&#8222;Scharfeliebe&#8220;, Stand 10.10.2023) finden wir nach wie vor nur die Howlogic Kft als Betreiberin, wie bekannt aus Ungarn. Im verlinkten Text ist jedoch die Rede davon, dass Dating-Portale als &#8222;Auftrag&#8220; &#252;bergeben werden &#8211; doch von wem? Wer beauftragt die Howlogic mit der Bereitstellung eines Dating-Portals mit allem Drum und Dran? Und warum ist der Auftraggeber dann nicht als die Person genannt, welche f&#252;r den Inhalt verantwortlich sein soll? </p> <p>Keine Abofalle, weil seri&#246;s? <br />Der online ver&#246;ffentlichte Text (s.o.) pr&#228;sentiert Howlogic Kft in einem positiven Licht. Mit M&#252;he und guten Worten sollen die Leser &#252;berzeugt werden, dass es sich nicht um eine Abofalle handelt.&#160; Wir zitieren die logische Schlussfolgerung, passend zum Namen, aus dem oben genannten Anzeigentext: </p> <p>&#8222;Besonders angenehm ist jedoch die hohe Qualit&#228;t der erbrachten Leistungen. Somit ist die Seite seri&#246;s und Verbraucheropfer von Abofallen entstehen hier nicht. Haben Verbraucher unbeabsichtigt ein Abo abgeschlossen, dann handelt es sich nicht um eine spezielle Abofalle. Vorsicht Abofalle? Nicht bei Howlogic Kft!&#8220; </p> <p>Zitatende. Also weil die Qualit&#228;t so &#8222;hoch&#8220; sein soll, muss es sich um eine &#8222;seri&#246;se&#8220; Seite handeln? Aha. Und wenn Verbraucher unbeabsichtigt ein Abo abschlie&#223;en, was durchaus vorkommen kann, dann handelt es sich laut Howlogic nicht um eine &#8222;spezielle&#8220; Abofalle. Diese Argumentation l&#228;sst zahlreiche Fragen offen. </p> <p>Online-Dating-Portale: Howlogic Kft weiterhin aktiv <br />Auch im weiteren Verlauf dieser wahrscheinlich gut gemeinten Anzeige wirken die &#220;berzeugungsversuche immer verzweifelter. Noch ein Zitat: &#8222;Zahllose deutschsprachige Datingseiten werden bereits von Howlogic betrieben und es werden t&#228;glich mehr. Von Themen wie zum Beispiel Howlogic k&#252;ndigen oder Abofalle und Rechtsanwalt ist keine Rede mehr.&#8220; Zitatende. </p> <p>Das k&#246;nnen wir an dieser Stelle nicht best&#228;tigen. Wir berichten weiterhin &#252;ber teure Abos auf Dating-Portalen und wie sich VerbraucherInnen wehren k&#246;nnen. Unsere Mitgliedern haben sogar die M&#246;glichkeit, sich durch unsere angeschlossenen Rechtsanw&#228;lte beraten zu lassen. Wir w&#252;rden demzufolge widersprechen: es ist weiterhin ein Thema. Vielleicht im Angesicht dieser Anzeige mehr als zuvor. </p> <p>Inkasso droht <br />Das Problem bei vielen Online-Dating-Portalen sind die Klauseln in den AGB, besonders hinsichtlich der Abo-Laufzeit. Wann kann gek&#252;ndigt werden? Verl&#228;ngert sich das Abo automatisch? Wird ein Jahresbetrag gefordert oder kann monatlich gezahlt werden? All die Fragen werden &#252;blicherweise in den AGB beantwortet. Diese werden kurz vor der Anmeldung auf Online-Dating-Portalen dargestellt, ohne einen gesetzten Haken geht es oft nicht weiter. </p> <p>Nur ist es leider so, dass sich zahlreiche betroffene Verbraucher und Verbraucherinnen bei uns melden, da es zu Problemen oder zu unerkl&#228;rlichen Abbuchungen durch Firmen kam, die in Zusammenhang mit Online-Dating-Seiten stehen. Wird nicht gezahlt, kann eine Inkassoforderung der n&#228;chste Schritt sein, was u.a. noch mehr Kosten bedeutet. So weit muss es nicht kommen. Reagieren Sie. </p> <p>Hilfe bei Howlogic Kft <br />Haben Sie Erfahrungen mit Webseiten der Howlogic Kft oder gar eine Zahlungsaufforderung durch ein Inkassounternehmen erhalten? Nicht den Kopf in den Sand stecken, sondern unbedingt reagieren, da weitere Kosten entstehen k&#246;nnen. Gerne helfen wir Ihnen mit allgemeine Informationen via E-Mail und Telefon.</p> mybb@mybb.ru (Timothyalink) Tue, 24 Oct 2023 01:07:26 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=293#p293 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=291#p291 <p>Howlogic Kft: Update zum K&#252;ndigen und Abo-Falle </p> <p>Die Firma Howlogic Kft hat einen Anzeigentext auf einem Portal eines Radiosenders ver&#246;ffentlicht. Im Text wird das Unternehmen mit Sitz in Ungarn als &#8222;f&#252;hrend&#8220; beschrieben. Sie soll ihren Kunden die M&#246;glichkeit bieten, Online Dating Portale zu betreiben. Wir haben uns den Text genauer angesehen und kommentieren die aktuellen Entwicklungen zu den Themen K&#252;ndigung und Abos. </p> <p>Anzeigentext soll &#220;berzeugungsarbeit leisten <br />Zwei Dinge fallen beim Lesen des Artikels &#8222;Abo-Falle &#8211; Howlogic Kft? Was die Anw&#228;lte sagen&#8220; besonders auf. Zum einen am&#252;sierte uns die Aussage am Ende des Beitrags, in dem es hei&#223;t, dass etwaige Kunden sich nicht mit &#8222;k&#252;nstlichen Intelligenz herumzuschlagen&#8220; m&#252;ssen, sondern &#8222;echten Support erhalten&#8220;. Der Text wirkt auf uns ebenso &#8222;k&#252;nstlich&#8220;, als ob ChatGPT mit passenden Schlagw&#246;rtern wie &#8222;K&#252;ndigen&#8220; oder &#8222;F&#252;hrend&#8220; gef&#252;ttert wurde. </p> <p>Zum Anderen sind wir verwirrt, wer denn nun die eindeutig zweideutigen Online Dating Portale, &#252;ber die wir an anderer Stelle geschrieben haben, letztendlich betreibt. Im Impressum einer der noch funktionierenden Webseiten (&#8222;Scharfeliebe&#8220;, Stand 10.10.2023) finden wir nach wie vor nur die Howlogic Kft als Betreiberin, wie bekannt aus Ungarn. Im verlinkten Text ist jedoch die Rede davon, dass Dating-Portale als &#8222;Auftrag&#8220; &#252;bergeben werden &#8211; doch von wem? Wer beauftragt die Howlogic mit der Bereitstellung eines Dating-Portals mit allem Drum und Dran? Und warum ist der Auftraggeber dann nicht als die Person genannt, welche f&#252;r den Inhalt verantwortlich sein soll? </p> <p>Keine Abofalle, weil seri&#246;s? <br />Der online ver&#246;ffentlichte Text (s.o.) pr&#228;sentiert Howlogic Kft in einem positiven Licht. Mit M&#252;he und guten Worten sollen die Leser &#252;berzeugt werden, dass es sich nicht um eine Abofalle handelt.&#160; Wir zitieren die logische Schlussfolgerung, passend zum Namen, aus dem oben genannten Anzeigentext: </p> <p>&#8222;Besonders angenehm ist jedoch die hohe Qualit&#228;t der erbrachten Leistungen. Somit ist die Seite seri&#246;s und Verbraucheropfer von Abofallen entstehen hier nicht. Haben Verbraucher unbeabsichtigt ein Abo abgeschlossen, dann handelt es sich nicht um eine spezielle Abofalle. Vorsicht Abofalle? Nicht bei Howlogic Kft!&#8220; </p> <p>Zitatende. Also weil die Qualit&#228;t so &#8222;hoch&#8220; sein soll, muss es sich um eine &#8222;seri&#246;se&#8220; Seite handeln? Aha. Und wenn Verbraucher unbeabsichtigt ein Abo abschlie&#223;en, was durchaus vorkommen kann, dann handelt es sich laut Howlogic nicht um eine &#8222;spezielle&#8220; Abofalle. Diese Argumentation l&#228;sst zahlreiche Fragen offen. </p> <p>Online-Dating-Portale: Howlogic Kft weiterhin aktiv <br />Auch im weiteren Verlauf dieser wahrscheinlich gut gemeinten Anzeige wirken die &#220;berzeugungsversuche immer verzweifelter. Noch ein Zitat: &#8222;Zahllose deutschsprachige Datingseiten werden bereits von Howlogic betrieben und es werden t&#228;glich mehr. Von Themen wie zum Beispiel Howlogic k&#252;ndigen oder Abofalle und Rechtsanwalt ist keine Rede mehr.&#8220; Zitatende. </p> <p>Das k&#246;nnen wir an dieser Stelle nicht best&#228;tigen. Wir berichten weiterhin &#252;ber teure Abos auf Dating-Portalen und wie sich VerbraucherInnen wehren k&#246;nnen. Unsere Mitgliedern haben sogar die M&#246;glichkeit, sich durch unsere angeschlossenen Rechtsanw&#228;lte beraten zu lassen. Wir w&#252;rden demzufolge widersprechen: es ist weiterhin ein Thema. Vielleicht im Angesicht dieser Anzeige mehr als zuvor. </p> <p>Inkasso droht <br />Das Problem bei vielen Online-Dating-Portalen sind die Klauseln in den AGB, besonders hinsichtlich der Abo-Laufzeit. Wann kann gek&#252;ndigt werden? Verl&#228;ngert sich das Abo automatisch? Wird ein Jahresbetrag gefordert oder kann monatlich gezahlt werden? All die Fragen werden &#252;blicherweise in den AGB beantwortet. Diese werden kurz vor der Anmeldung auf Online-Dating-Portalen dargestellt, ohne einen gesetzten Haken geht es oft nicht weiter. </p> <p>Nur ist es leider so, dass sich zahlreiche betroffene Verbraucher und Verbraucherinnen bei uns melden, da es zu Problemen oder zu unerkl&#228;rlichen Abbuchungen durch Firmen kam, die in Zusammenhang mit Online-Dating-Seiten stehen. Wird nicht gezahlt, kann eine Inkassoforderung der n&#228;chste Schritt sein, was u.a. noch mehr Kosten bedeutet. So weit muss es nicht kommen. Reagieren Sie. </p> <p>Hilfe bei Howlogic Kft <br />Haben Sie Erfahrungen mit Webseiten der Howlogic Kft oder gar eine Zahlungsaufforderung durch ein Inkassounternehmen erhalten? Nicht den Kopf in den Sand stecken, sondern unbedingt reagieren, da weitere Kosten entstehen k&#246;nnen. Gerne helfen wir Ihnen mit allgemeine Informationen via E-Mail und Telefon.</p> mybb@mybb.ru (Timothyalink) Tue, 24 Oct 2023 01:06:25 +0300 http://dom12shelepiha.fanbb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=291#p291